RR – Well, the most important thing you got to read a cows mind. You gonna cut a cow, you got to learn which way he's going, go with him and if he's going to go away, well you gotta go that a way. So he goes to where you want to go. In other words, you gotta be smarter than the cow. There ain't two things the same. Everything is different because you can't tell him to do this because the next time it ain't gonna be that way; it be a different way. In other words, you just gotta outsmart a cow, that's all. Try to do what you want him to do. You know sometimes you be cutting calves, cows and calves, and sometimes the calf will be cut off from their mama. Then two or three calves here, and the cow be over there kinda wild. They don't stay there. They're a pair. They'll stay together. So you got to find the mama of that calf. You look at the calf and look at the cow. It got some mark somewhere, the cow got. You bring that cow out to the calf or take the calf where the mama is. But if the cow is wild, you can't get close to it; you gotta be way off. You push that calf over there and you stay away. And finally the cow come and smell that calf. But, some people don't know. If they aren't together, they won't cut it. You got to mother them up. Now that's a cowman.