Lela Williams – born Duke Ranch. I1909, September 21. That's where I was born because my children was born down here to this ranch down here. Down at that…where Papa was... mama was killed in that yard. Down there where we all worked on. You know where that old cistern was sittin'? Do you know anythin' about that?
Louise O'Connor - Behind the house?
Lela Williams – Yeah. Where Papa used to stay up stairs there in the…well, she was killed Christmas morning out there in that yard. And he was four years old. They said her brother was fooling with a gun on Christmas morning and accidentally shot her. And after she was killed, Miss Jenny and Mr. Tom O'Connor took Papa and they raised him. And they raised him because he told me he was baptized in the Catholic Church. And he said he used to drive Miss Jenny to church, he said, with two oxen when he was a small boy. And he never did go to school. But you couldn't beat him out of a nan-nickel. And he learnt that countin' sheeps, he said, cattle, and stuff like that. That's the way he learnt to count.
Louise O'Connor – So what was living down there on that ranch like, Lela, as a kid?
Lela Williams – Well, when I was down there on the kid, we did all kind of work on that ranch. And the way that we made money; me and my two sisters, outside of gettin' a bale of cotton out, it was a gate down there. And we would see a car comin', we'd run out and open the gate for the cars and they'd throw us a nickel. It was nine of us when Mama died. And the youngest one was five days old. Died from child birth.