Kerry McCan – The idea was that you took care of 'em. You didn't pay 'em much, but you took care of 'em and made damn sure they didn't go hungry or didn't freeze or they always had enough to eat and their families did. It's kind of like a commune with a dictator. Really where it works the best is where you have very little communication; no roads, no railroads, no stuff like that. It's not the best of all systems. We like it because down here because you're able through that system to carry more power with you. They say, "Well, people aren't loyal like they used to be," but were they ever, really? It's too close to feudalism for me, really. But, you're still able to get people to work. If you let 'em do it horseback, they'll work for less and they work in unsavory conditions 'cause they can do it horseback. If all they did around these ranches was build fences, you couldn't get 'em to do it. Not for the wages we pay. It's sort of a mystique. You're taller than a man that's on foot. And here you are, 150 – 200 pounds, you're controlling a 1,100 pound companion. And you're using him to control a big bunch of cattle.