Earl Ward – Soon as I was big enough I started going across the river and going to work there at the River Ranch when they were working cattle when I was sixteen or seventeen, when Emmett Fagan was the head honcho there. Then McFaddin, then the River Ranch, then McFaddin, then Salt Creek, then McFaddin, then Welder-McCan, then River Ranch. Wherever there was something going on beside damn hay work. That first summer after I got out of school I worked at the River Ranch until they got through shipping. And then there wasn't much cow work. But over there at McFaddin, you see, they shipped all winter long on fed steer. So I worked horseback through the winter there. Yeah, they were different. McFaddin, they were pretty progressive, you know…Claude McCan, they had a lot of farming, lots of farming. It wasn't just a matter of a few tenant farmers, so you'd have hands. They farmed a lot of country and they kept their steer calves – they wintered their steer calves, where O'Connor's always sold 'em, you know. Ok, Welders and McFaddin both, they wintered their steers and then they'd go to Garcitas with 'em, keep them till they were two or three years old, and go to Cranell (?) but they did at the Melon, too. But I think here at the Duke, and at the River, they sold weaning calves, and they were gone. Staying with the old way of doing.